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Dr. Julia Bowlin: [00:00:00] If the forcing stopped completely, what might already be trying to surface
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Take one deep breath and let this episode meet you where you are. And this time, maybe let the exhale be a little longer than usual. Whatever has been carried into this moment, whatever is still being figured out, still being held, and still waiting for resolution, it doesn't have to be solved before we begin this podcast.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: It can just rest here for a while. Hi there. I'm Dr. Julia Bowlin, and this is Mindset Medicine. We've covered some grounds this month in this series. Oh my gosh. Episode two was about noticing, noticing that quiet, almost imperceptible signal that something has been shifting. Before there's even words for it, before it makes logical sense, just a feeling that just keeps showing up in the margins of everyday life.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: [00:01:00] Episode three, we went deeper into the pressure behind maintaining a life that looks right, but maybe doesn't feel right. The identity patterns that keep running long after the season that we're built have already passed. The weight of a sprint that never got the message that the race was over, and now we're here, the fourth and final episode in this series of Called Not Chased.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: And here's what I wanna say before we go any further. If last week's episode stirred something, if something has been sitting differently or a question has been quietly following you around that you haven't quite known what to do with, that is not a problem, folks. That's exactly actually where this episode is designed to meet you, because this one thing is, isn't about just noticing anymore.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: It isn't about more pressure or more understanding or more figuring out. This episode is about what happens when the forcing that maybe we've been doing for a lot just to [00:02:00] power through finally stops. So what happens when the forcing finally stops, and why does this matter? Well, there's a particular kind of tired that comes from trying too hard to figure things out, and I wanna be specific about what that actually looks like because it doesn't always announce itself as trying too hard.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: It might look like lying awake at 3:00 AM running the same mental loop over and over for what feels like the hundredth time, not because the answer keeps changing, but because the answer hasn't come yet, and the mind refuses to stop reaching for it. It might look like journaling in circles, writing the same question in slightly different words across multiple pages and ending up more confused than when the pen first touched the paper.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: It might look like having the same conversation with your friend, a partner, a therapist, and walking away with more to think about instead of less [00:03:00] It might look like googling various different same questions at odd hours, looking for the thing that finally clicks into place and finding information that's somehow both relevant and completely unhelpful at the same time.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: We've all done that, I think. It looks like mental rehearsal of a situation that hasn't happened yet. It's playing out scenarios. It's planning responses. It's anticipating outcomes in an attempt to feel more in control of something that keeps resisting control. Many people call this overthinking, and sometimes that is accurate, but sometimes it's something else.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Sometimes it's exhaustion because of all the forcing, the quiet, persistent belief that if enough mental energy gets applied to a problem, that clarity will eventually break through. That's the right combination of effort, analysis, and willpower will eventually produce the answer that hasn't come that we've been searching for.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: But here's what I've [00:04:00] noticed both in my life and the lives of people I work with. The forcing doesn't produce clarity. It produces more noise, and underneath all that noise, something quieter has been trying to surface the entire time. That's what this episode is about. So let's talk about what's actually happening when forcing has been going on for a long time, and I wanna start with something really honest.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: I used to think that if I just thought about something hard enough or long enough from enough angles, that the answer would eventually break through Like clarity was a door that would open if I put enough pressure behind it. Well, unfortunately, it took me an embarrassingly long time to understand that is not how it works.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: When the brain perceives uncertainty, and unresolved questions register as uncertainty, we have questions that we can't figure out, even when they're not dangerous, it activates a low-grade stress response. You know [00:05:00] I talk about the stress response all the time. It's not a full alarm, it's just a quiet, persistent hum that keeps the system on alert.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: It narrows our thinking. It sends the mind back to the same territory, to the same story over and over, convinced that if we keep doing that, that the answer must be in there somewhere, and we'll tease it out somehow. It's like checking the same drawer over and over for a lost set of keys. Not because the keys are necessarily there, but because that's where the search started, and the nervous system doesn't know how to stop it once it's been set in motion.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: And here's what makes it particularly sneaky. The forcing doesn't always happen at the desk with a journal and intentional focus. Sometimes it happens while you're washing the dishes, while driving a familiar route, while folding laundry or making dinner or sitting in a meeting that requires just enough attention to stay present, but not enough to quiet the part of the mind that's still [00:06:00] grinding on the same unresolved question in the background.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: The body's in one place, the mind is somewhere else entirely. And it's exhausting in a way that's hard to explain to anyone who isn't experiencing it because it's not something dramatic going on. It's just this low-grade, persistent mental hum that follows us everywhere. I remember lying in bed during some of my most uncertain seasons of my life, running the same loop in my head for an hour before finally falling asleep and waking up the next morning and picking up exactly where I left off.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: It wasn't that I hadn't thought about things long enough or hard enough. It was that I had thought about them too much in too narrow of a way without ever just getting quiet enough to let the deeper part of myself actually respond. And here's the paradox that nobody warns us about The harder we push for clarity, [00:07:00] the further away clarity actually moves.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Because forcing narrows the field. It keeps the mind in the same small territory, circling the same small set of possibilities, generating the same small set of conclusions. And the answer, the real one, the honest one, often isn't that it's in that territory at all. It's somewhere quieter, somewhere the mind can reach only when it finally stops reaching.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: And there's a particular kind of fatigue that comes at the end of the day when we are doing this mental grinding. It's not a physical tiredness. It's not the satisfying exhaustion of something completed well done. It's just a hollow, slightly defeated feeling that nothing got resolved despite everything that was giving and doing to try to figure it out.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Our shoulders carry it, our jaw holds it, our eyes feel heavier than sleep can explain. [00:08:00] And that's the body's receipt for a day of forcing, trying to figure it out And it's worth recognizing because it means something. Because here's what I believe, and what I've seen confirmed both in science and in the sacred heart.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: The body knows things that the mind hasn't organized into language yet. There's a quieter, slower, more intuitive knowing that lives underneath the noise of active problem-solving, and it's remarkably wise, but it cannot compete with the volume of sustained force. The signal's there. It's just waiting for the noise to settle long enough to be heard.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: So let's talk about a distinction that I think matters enormously. This distinction-- I can't say that word. Woo. The difference, we'll just go there. The difference between being stuck and being misaligned. Because from the outside, and often [00:09:00] from the inside, they can feel almost identical. It's the same resistance, the same sense of not being able to move forward, the same frustration of knowing that something needs to shift, but not being able to identify exactly what.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: But they're actually very different experiences, and treating one like the other is part of what keeps people in the loop longer than necessary. Being stuck tends to be about a specific problem. It's a decision that hasn't been made yet, a situation that hasn't been resolved. There's a clear question attached to it, even if the answer isn't clear yet.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Misalignment, however, is something totally different. Misalignment is the experience of a life that is fundamentally functioning, but vibrating at a slightly different frequency than the person living it. There's really no single problem to solve, no clear decision to make. It's just this quiet, persistent sense that something about the [00:10:00] direction, the role, or the identity that we're living in no longer quite matches what's true on our inner core And Nikki Brammer explores something close to this in The Collected Regrets of Clover, the book.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: I love this book. The link is in the show notes. Wow, I'm a hospice medical director, and I learned so much from this book, so I think it's awesome. These aren't about dramatic regrets in our life. It's not about the missed opportunities or the roads not taken that announce themselves really loudly. It's more about the quieter things, the slow accumulation of small divergences from what really used to feel true.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: It's the life that was lived mostly right, but in some places not quite honestly enough. And those quiet regrets don't usually arrive in a crisis. They arrive in a feeling, a low hum, or something that's just easy to dismiss until it isn't. In [00:11:00] David Hawkins, in his book, In Letting Go, again, in the show notes, there's a link.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: This book really helped me a lot. The idea that most of what keeps people contracted and stuck isn't the situation. It's the accumulated emotional weight of resisting the situation, the energy spent fighting what is, rather than just allowing it to be seen clearly. And what I've come to understand through my own journey and through the work that I do with others is that misalignment doesn't get resolved by forcing.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: It gets resolved by releasing. Not dramatically, not at once, and not by dismantling everything and starting over. That's not what I'm suggesting. But just by loosening the grip long enough to let what's actually true come into focus. Because misalignment isn't the problem. The refusal to acknowledge the misalignment is.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: And we've all been there. We've all felt it in our gut that this [00:12:00] doesn't feel in integrity, this doesn't feel right, and yet we just like to shove it aside or refuse to acknowledge it. But here's the deal. Once it does get acknowledged, honestly, without judgment, without immediately needing to fix it, something shifts.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Not on the outside, not yet, but on the inside. And something settles. And in that settling, there's a quiet signal waiting, something that was there all along, just waiting to be heard So what actually happens when the forcing stops? I want to be honest about this because I think it's easy for this part to sound like a motivational poster, and I want to handle it carefully.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: I also want to acknowledge something first. For a lot of women and a lot of professionals in general, especially high-achieving professionals, the idea of stillness doesn't feel peaceful. It feels threatening, and rest can feel [00:13:00] like falling behind. Quiet can feel like wasted time. A mind that isn't actively producing something can start to feel like evidence is not being enough, like we're not being enough, like our value is in our output.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: And without our output, our worthiness can get a little shaky. And that's not a personal feeling, that's a deeply conditioned pattern that productivity and identity got fused somewhere along the way, and now a person can't exist comfortably unless they're producing. And I know this pattern intimately. My husband was a Harley bike rider, not a bicycle, a motorcycle.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: He had a wonderful group of friends who went on long trips together, and they tried for years to get me to come along, to ride with him, to see the country, to be present. And I nearly panicked every time they asked. And I remember asking him completely seriously, I kid you [00:14:00] not, if I could tie a string around his neck and hang my phone from it from behind so I could keep working, uh, whether I could bring a book to read on the motorcycle, whether there was some way to have paper and pens so I could at least write something.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: And he laughed, and he paused, and he said, "There's a reason, Julia, why Harley riders aren't in psychiatrist's office." He had a point. His group of friends had made a bet. I finally agreed to come along, and it was hidden from me initially entirely, which I only found out a- about later as we got into the trip.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: They made a bet on how long it would take for me to reach for the quiet that they knew I needed to have, an empty mind. They never told me what the bet was about. They just watched and they waited. So the first night we arrived and they asked if I'd figured it out. I had absolutely no idea what they were talking about.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: In fact, I was a little offended, honestly. [00:15:00] Money was changing hands. Then the second night came, same question. I was more irritated, confused, and slightly embarrassed, and more money changed hands. And then the third day of sitting behind him on the Harley bike with nothing to do but to look and think and exist in a moving stillness on that road, something happened.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: My brain felt a physical click, I mean physical click, in a way I had never felt before in my life. And I remember the thought that followed it so clearly. "Oh I don't have anything else to think about. And my mind went quiet. And for the first time I could remember, it went completely, genuinely quiet. I did not know that existed.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: It may sound crazy, but I know a lot of women have a constantly churning mind. I didn't know it was possible, and I didn't know it could be a choice. [00:16:00] But once I felt it, oh my goodness, it was undeniable. And my husband won the bet because he thought it would take three days 'cause he's been with me on vacation.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: It takes about three days for me to get into vacation mode in the past. Now I can turn it on just like that. And since that moment, that specific earned three days on a motorcycle moment, I've been able to find that stillness without the Harley, to pull in that sense of calm and openness, to allow intuition to come in without force.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: But it took three days of having nothing to do to just discover that it existed. And I say all this because I understand deeply, personally, without any judgment at all, that for some people, stillness is genuinely scary and uncomfortable. That an empty mind can feel like an identity crisis, and that rest without productivity can feel like a small act of disloyalty to everything that was built [00:17:00] on the back of relentless forward struggle and push and forward motion.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: That discomfort is real, and it's also the exact threshold that this episode is inviting for you to step across. Because here's what I know. The answer wasn't louder than forcing. It was quieter, steadier, and more certain than anything the forcing I had ever done could ever have produced Real clarity doesn't arrive with fanfare.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Real clarity arrives in the stillness, in the shower, on the walk, on the back of a Harley with nothing to do for three days, but finally just stop. The signal was always there. The noise was just too loud to hear it. And I wanna stay here for a moment because there's something happening in the brain during all of this that's worth understanding.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Because once it's understood, the forcing [00:18:00] stops feeling like a personal failure, and it starts feeling exactly what it is. When the brain encounters uncertainty, real uncertainty, the kind that can't be resolved from gathering more information or thinking harder, it does something very specific. It escalates.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: The part of the brain responsible for problem-solving goes into overdrive, and it starts generating options and running scenarios and rehearsing outcomes. It loops back to the same territory repeatedly, not out of stubbornness, but because it's doing exactly what it was designed to do in the face of a perceived threat The problem is existential misalignment isn't a threat that the brain knows how to solve.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: It's not a math problem. It's not a logistics challenge. It's not something that yields enough analysis or even enough willpower or enough middle of the night mental rehearsals. And yet the brain keeps [00:19:00] trying because that's what brains do. The more uncertain the situation, the more the control seeking escalates, and here's the cruel irony in all that.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: The escalating control seeking actually closes off access to the very clarity it's searching for. Think about trying to see something clearly in water that's been stirred up. The harder you stir it, the murkier it gets. Clarity doesn't come from more stirring. It comes from stillness, from letting the sediment settle until the water clears on its own.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: The brain in forced problem-solving mode is stirring the pot, folks. The quiet is what allows the water to clear. There's actually a shift that happens neurologically when the forcing ceases. The prefrontal cortex, that relentless problem-solving, that engine inside the front of your brain, it [00:20:00] starts to quiet, and a different kind of processing becomes available.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: One it's broader, less linear, and more connected to pattern recognition and intuitive knowing. Scientists call this the default mode network. Most of us just call it an answer that comes out of nowhere. It didn't come out of nowhere. It came from finally getting still enough to receive what the brain has been processing quietly underneath all the noise the entire time, and that's what happened for me in the back of the Harley after three days.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: That's what happens in the shower or on a walk or in the pause between one thought and the next. And folks, this isn't a character flaw. This isn't evidence of weakness or avoidance or even an inability to handle difficult stuff. This is a survival mechanism. It's being applied to a situation that it's never been designed for, though.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: And once that's understood, the forcing doesn't feel like trying hard enough anymore. [00:21:00] It feels like standing in the way of something that was trying to come through. And once we recognize that forcing doesn't work, but quiet and peace allows things to come through, oh my gosh, the lightness that comes through is insane So I wanna take a moment here and invite you into something I'm starting on these podcasts.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: I've done bits and pieces of them before, but I now call them Unicity Moments. This is a signature part of what I do and what I've built my entire practice around. Unicity is the experience of an uncluttered mind and an uncluttered body and an uncluttered soul. And this moment is designed to help you access a little bit of that.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Before we go there, here's a few things I want you to know. If you are driving or operating any kind of machinery right now, please save this part for later. Come back to it when you can be still. But if you do choose to participate, if you're driving, just know that you're always aware, always [00:22:00] present, always in complete control.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Nothing here requires you to do anything that doesn't feel right. This is an invitation and not an instruction. And if you'd simply just like to listen, that's perfectly okay, too. Sometimes just hearing something is enough. So when you're ready, let's go inward for just a few moments. Wherever you are right now, allow yourself to get a little more comfortable.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Nothing dramatic, just a small permission to settle in and take one deep breath. And let it go And notice just for a moment that nothing is required of you right now. No solving, no figuring it out, no producing, just this breath, this moment, this permission to simply be here And allow all your attention to soften [00:23:00] and move gently towards the awareness of your body.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Notice the weight of wherever you're sitting or resting, the support beneath you, the quiet, reliable fact that you don't have to hold yourself upright Something else is doing that for you now And with the next breath, allow your jaw to unclench slightly, just noticing and releasing And the shoulders, if there's any holding there or tightness, just allow them to drop a fraction from your ears There may be thoughts moving through, and that's perfectly fine.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Just simply allow them to drift past the way clouds move across an open sky without needing to engage with any of these thoughts. You are not thoughts. [00:24:00] You're the sky they're moving through
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Now allow the attention to turn gently inward. Not searching, not solving, just resting in an awareness of this moment And you may begin to notice something underneath the usual mental activity, a quieter layer, something that isn't trying to figure anything out It may feel subtle at first, like the difference between a room with a television on and the same room after it's been turned off
Dr. Julia Bowlin: The silence was always there, simply becoming audible again
Dr. Julia Bowlin: And if it feels right, imagine that quieter layer just [00:25:00] slowly expanding. Not forced, just allowed, like water finding its own level And I want to gently bring something into this space. There may be something that's been held tightly for a while. A question without an answer, a situation without a resolution A life that is still being pushed towards a shape it might need to find on its own
Dr. Julia Bowlin: And if any of that resonates, allow yourself to just for a moment, set it down Not permanently, not with any requirement to have figured it out first, just a temporary release of the grip. Like relaxing and unclenching a hand that's been holding onto something for a very long time [00:26:00] Notice what that feels like in the body
Dr. Julia Bowlin: It may feel strange. It may feel slightly vulnerable. It may feel like something beneath relief and unfamiliarity
Dr. Julia Bowlin: All of that is welcome here You may begin to sense if it feels true that underneath the question, underneath the unresolved situation, something quieter has been present all along
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Not louder than the noise, just steadier Like a signal that's been patiently waiting for the interference to just clear
Dr. Julia Bowlin: There's no [00:27:00] requirements to identify it right now. No pressure to name it or act on it or know what it means. Simply allow the possibility if it's there
Dr. Julia Bowlin: that has always been there And that the releasing is already the beginning of hearing it
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Allow yourself to sense, even briefly, even lightly, what it might feel like to move through a day from this place. Not from forcing and not from noise, but from here, from this quieter, steadier version of yourself that doesn't need to have everything resolved before feeling whole That version isn't far away, and it may be closer than it's ever felt before
Dr. Julia Bowlin: [00:28:00] Gently now, bring your awareness back to the room
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Notice the sounds around you, the light, the temperature of the air against your skin, and let's take one slow breath in And let it go. And when you're ready, in your own time, allow yourself to return fully, carrying with you whatever settled in there, whatever felt true. There is a wisdom inside of you that is not confused.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: It does not need more information. It does not need more time. It does not need the situation to resolve before it knows what is true. It has always known, and the only thing it has ever needed is the quiet to be heard So here's the reframe I wanna offer as we come out of this unicity moment. [00:29:00] I wanna say it simply because I think it deserves simplicity.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Alignment isn't something that gets found, it gets uncovered, and those two things require completely different approaches. Finding implies searching, effort, forward motion, looking in the right places with enough persistence and enough intelligence and enough willpower to eventually locate the thing that's been missing.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: That's finding. Uncovering implies something differently entirely Uncovering implies that what's been being looked for is already there underneath something waiting not to be discovered, but to be revealed. And what it's waiting to be revealed from is the noise of all of the forcing. And I think about renovation analogy last week of walking through the rooms of a life [00:30:00] slowly with honest eyes, noticing what still works and what's quietly stopped a while ago.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Remember, we were looking at the house and noticing pictures that have been there for years, and we stopped seeing them. We got kind of house blind. But now walking through with honest eyes, what still works? What first step isn't picking up a sledgehammer and demolishing the house versus just taking the picture down and seeing it with new eyes?
Dr. Julia Bowlin: This week, the sledgehammer gets set down entirely because here was what I've come to understand through the motorcycle, through medicine, through my loss, through everything in between, that life is trying to emerge. It isn't being withheld. It isn't hiding. It isn't waiting for the perfect condition or the right decision or the moment where everything finally makes sense.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: It's already [00:31:00] pressing through in the quiet moments, in the flickers of recognition, in the pause before the automatic answer gets given, in the three seconds of stillness before the next task gets picked up. That's not nothing, folks. That's a signal. And David Hawkins wrote in his book, in Letting Go, the idea that most suffering doesn't come from the situation itself.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: It comes from the resistance to the situation, from the energy spent fighting what is rather than the allowing it to be seen clearly. And that's the simple act of releasing that resistance. It doesn't make the situation disappear. It makes it navigable in a way that forcing never could. And Mickey Brammer captures something quite devastating in The Collective Regrets of Clover book.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: The idea that the regrets linger longest aren't the big dramatic ones. They're the quiet divergences, the [00:32:00] small moments where what was most true got overridden by what was most expected The life that was lived mostly right, but in some places not quite honestly enough. And it wasn't because of failure, it was because our noise in our life, the things we're hearing, was blocking the things that were trying to emerge.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: This month, these three episodes have been about learning to turn down the noise. Not all at once, not permanently, and not anything dramatic in a big monster transformation. Just turning it down just enough, enough to notice the signal, enough to stop explaining it away, and enough to let what's already trying to emerge finally, finally have a little room to breathe.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: That's the mindset shift. Not a new life, not a reinvention, just a little more honesty about what's actually true and [00:33:00] already true, and a little less force standing between the truth and the life that's waiting to hold it. We've covered a lot of ground this month, these three episodes, three honest conversations about what it feels like when something quietly shifts, when the maintaining starts to cost more than it's giving back, and when the forcing finally runs out of road.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: And I don't want to add more to carry out of this one. So instead of asking a question that requires you to think, I offer one simple statement that requires just listening. Not to me, not to the episode, not to anything outside. I just want you to think about listening inward for a moment. If the forcing stopped completely, what might already be trying to surface?
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Don't answer it now. Don't analyze it or write it or turn it into a big project. Just sit with that. If the forcing stopped [00:34:00] completely, what might already be trying to surface? Because the answer to that question isn't something that gets figured out, folks. It's something that gets listened to and heard, and it's already there.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: And here's what I want to leave you with at the end of this month. Not a strategy, not a checklist, just a simple thing to do differently tomorrow morning. Just this. This is part of you that has never been confused, not by the noise, not by the pressure, not by the weight of maintaining a life that was built for everything you had, not even for the grief of things that didn't go the way that they were supposed to.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: That part has been present through it all. Quiet, patient, steady in a way that the mind in all its relentless striving could never quite replicate. It speaks in signals, not sentences, in flickers, not announcements, in the stillness behind a motorcycle on an open road [00:35:00] when the mind finally exhausts itself into silence and something much older, much wiser gets a moment to breathe.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: And that's what's called not chased has been about in this series. Not the chasing, not the forcing, not the performance of a life that looks right from the outside. The calling, the quiet, persistent, impossibly to fully silence, calling of a soul that knows, has always known what it came here for. And sometimes the most sacred thing that can happen is simply getting still enough to remember.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: Thank you for walking through this month with me truly. It's been quite a privilege and an honor to be able to be back and start to feel my brain work after the loss of my husband. So I appreciate all the support. I'm hoping to get a little more energy as we move forward, a little more clarity. But next month, we're going to go somewhere new, a different conversation, a different layer [00:36:00] of this beautiful, complicated, and worthy work of learning to live from the inside out rather than the outside in.
Dr. Julia Bowlin: I think something in you already knows it's the right next step. Thank you for spending this time with me. And until next time, may you be happy, be healthy, and be fulfilled.
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