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[00:00:00] Dr. Julia Bowlin: Is success cost you peace, your health and your sense of self. That's way too expensive.
[00:00:12] Hi there. I'm Dr. Julia Bowlin and welcome to Mindset Medicine. Take one deep breath and let this episode meet you where you are. In this month's podcast, we were talking all about the end game reset, how to close 2025 with honesty, intention, and clarity so that we don't drag exhaustion, outdated expectations, and borrowed definitions of success into 2026.
[00:00:38] Each episode this month has a checkpoint, a pause in a moment to ask what stays and what doesn't. And for this final episode, I wanna start here. We weren't made to hustle ourselves into the ground. We were made to rise, to grow, to proceed, not through force, not through self-sacrifice, [00:01:00] but through alignment.
[00:01:01] Which brings us to today's conversation. Let's talk about the lie that we inherited about success. There's a story that most of us were handed about success, and very few of us ever stopped to question it. The story goes something like this. If you're tired, you're doing it right. If you're stretched thin, you must be committed.
[00:01:26] And if you're depleted, well, at least you're productive. And somewhere along the way, exhaustion and busyness became our proof of our worth. It's like living in a house where every light is on all the time, not because you need the light, but because you were taught that darkness equals laziness. So the kitchen light stays on the hallway, light stays on the porch, light stays on, and eventually you're shocked when the breaker flips.
[00:01:56] And that didn't happen because the house was weak. It happened because no one [00:02:00] taught us how energy works. And most of us didn't consciously choose this belief system. We just absorbed it from those people around us, our parents, our religion, our coworkers, our family, friends, but you know, training programs.
[00:02:15] In education, reward over functioning. I'm a perfect example of that. Residency was insane from workplaces that quietly praised the person who never says no from families where the strong one meant not needing anything. And from a culture that confuses being busy with being important. We learn to treat ourselves like appliances instead of organisms.
[00:02:42] We're plugged in always on, and we're expected to deliver the same output, whether it's summer or winter, morning or midnight crisis or calm. So if you've ever looked at your life and thought, why does success feel so heavy? [00:03:00] That's not a personal failure. It was conditioning. Because we have normalized a version of success that requires a constant output, emotional suppression, and a nervous system permanently stuck in high gear.
[00:03:14] It's like running on high voltage through wiring that was never meant to carry it nonstop. The lights flicker, the system overheats and things short out, not all at once, but slowly. First, it starts as irritability. Then maybe some brain fog and then a shorter fuse with people that you actually love. You start to lose it right then.
[00:03:40] The quiet numbness when even when winds don't land, we forget our successes. We're numbed out and we forget how to feel in the moment. And from the outside, everything looks just fine. We clap through the grind, [00:04:00] we admire the push, and then we romanticize the person who just keeps going. Even when their joy is gone, their body is whispering or yelling, and their relationships are running on fumes.
[00:04:13] And there's nothing sacred about that, folks. Not anything at all. There's nothing noble about being depleted either. When we say, how you doing? Oh, well, busy, busy, busy. Like, that's a badge of fricking honor. It's not, sacred. Success isn't about doing less just to do less. It's about questioning why growth was tied to suffering in the first place.
[00:04:37] And it's about recognizing that ambition does not require self abandonment, and it's about understanding that real energy, sustainable energy, it comes from rhythm and not pressure. Let's think about that current again. Electricity flows best when resistance is managed, not ignored. Think about fire again.[00:05:00]
[00:05:00] It warms and it illuminates when it's contained, but it birds everything down. When forced to rage without pause, and your life is no different, is success cost you peace, your health and your sense of self? That's way too expensive, and this episode isn't here to take your ambition away. It's here to mature it, to bring it back into alignment with your body and your values and your actual life.
[00:05:30] Not the one you think you're supposed to be doing, not the one you're supposed to survive. Because success that burns you out isn't success. It's a slow leak disguised as achievement, and we can do better than that. And here's why. Depletion is not a badge of honor. Somewhere along the way, exhaustion became the priority or the expectation, or became a flex, will go in and out [00:06:00] of exhaustion.
[00:06:01] Maybe you've heard the words, man, I'm just slammed, or I'm running on fumes, or I haven't had a day off in weeks. Well, we say these things automatically, like they're credentials, like tired equals importance, like depleted equals dedicated. But here's the truth that most of us were never taught. Depletion isn't a character trait.
[00:06:25] It's a physiologic state. And when your body is chronically exhausted, it's not a plotting. It's not, it's not a plotting, it's not clapping. It's trying to keep you alive. Think about your phone for a second. When the battery drops into the red, it doesn't suddenly perform better because you really need it.
[00:06:45] It dims the screen. It closes background apps. It limits function not to punish you, but to preserve what little energy is left, and your nervous system does the same thing. When you live in a constant push, [00:07:00] a constant urgency, constant responsibility, constant output, your system shifts into survival mode, and survival mode is incredibly efficient for emergencies.
[00:07:13] It's terrible for everyday living. And in that state, creativity narrows patience, thins joy becomes optional, and perspective collapses into just get through another day. You're still functioning, but you're not fully online. And this is why people say things like, I don't even recognize myself anymore, or I should be happy, but I'm not.
[00:07:42] Or I don't know why everything feels so heavy. Again, it's not weakness, it's biology. And yet culturally, we reward this state. We hand out gold stars for burnout adjacent living. We promote people who never [00:08:00] pause. We admire the ones who ignore their own signals the longest, but here's the cost that no one talks about, and it's a quiet cost.
[00:08:10] When depletion becomes normal, you stop trusting yourself. You override hunger, you ignore fatigue. You dismiss irritability. You explain away numbness, and eventually you might lose internal calibration for what enough even feels like. It's like driving a car with a check engine light on. You've done it for so long that you don't even notice it anymore until one day the car just stops warning you anymore, and it stops.
[00:08:39] And then people say, I don't know why this happened. This is why depletion is not a badge of honor. It's a warning system that's been ignored too long. Success, sacred Success listens sooner. It recognizes that sustained ambition requires recovery. [00:09:00] Just like muscles require rest in between workouts, just like fields require fallow seasons, just like animals instinctively slow down when their resources are scarce.
[00:09:12] No animal apologizes for conserving energy and no ecosystem thrives under constant extraction. So if you're telling yourself, I'll rest when the season is over, or I just need to push a little longer, or everyone else seems to handle this better than I do, that's not true talking, that's conditioning again, and your body isn't asking you to quit.
[00:09:38] It's just asking you to stop proving because the most dangerous myth of all is this one that ignoring your limits makes you stronger. It doesn't, it just makes the bill come due sooner.
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[00:11:01] Dr. Julia Bowlin: And the good news, the part that we're moving towards next is that there is another way to succeed. One that doesn't require collapse as the price of growth. So what success is? Sacred success really means. If hustle culture told us anything, it's this. Success is something you chase. Sacred Success tells a different story.
[00:11:27] Success isn't something you run after, it's something you build in the relationship with yourself and your life. Because sacred success doesn't ask how much can you endure? It asks, what can you sustain? Because real success isn't measured by output. It's measured by integrity. Not moral integrity, but internal integrity.
[00:11:51] The kind where your mind and your body and your values are actually on the same team. Imagine all that working together. That's [00:12:00] alignment. Just think about alignment for a moment. When a wheel is aligned, it moves smoothly. When it's not, it might still move, but at a cost, it'll wear down. It'll drag. More energy is burned just to stay on the road, and that's how a lot of people are living their lives right now.
[00:12:22] They're still moving, still achieving, but everything is just off a little bit and it takes way more effort than it should. Sacred success brings things back into alignment. Sacred success honors ambition, but it doesn't let ambition bully the body. It values growth. Not at the expense of presence. It allows progress without requiring you to override your own signals to get there.
[00:12:53] You don't have to sacrifice yourself for success, and this is where people get a little nervous because they [00:13:00] hear the word sacred and they think it means soft or passive or less driven. It doesn't. Sacred success is not the absence of effort. It's the intelligent application of energy. It's knowing when to push and when to pause, because both serve the outcome is understanding that pressure without recovery doesn't create excellence.
[00:13:28] It creates fragility, and I think that's really important.
[00:13:33] We become more frail when we push ourselves to the point of the brink, sickness, illness, irritability, lack of joy, depression, anxiety, all these things. We see it all the time. We see this in high level performers all the time. And here's the deal, the best athletes don't train at maximum intensity every day.
[00:13:58] The best musicians don't [00:14:00] practice until their hands are destroyed. The best leaders don't make decisions from exhaustion and call it dedication. They cycle they rhythm, intensity and recovery. Focus and release expansion and integration, and sacred success follows that same rhythm. It understands that the nervous system is not an obstacle to achievement.
[00:14:28] It's the infrastructure. When the nervous system is regulated, we think more clearly. We communicate better. We see options instead of corners, and we respond instead of reacting. And from that state, ambition is cleaner. We stop chasing success to prove something. We start building success that actually supports our life.
[00:14:54] Sacred success feels so different in the body. There's energy at the end of the [00:15:00] day. Not just depletion. There's clarity instead of a constant sense of urgency, and there's room to enjoy the winds when that happens. And that's so important. We need to enjoy the winds. So many of us have success, amnesia. We forget the good things we did today, maybe even an hour ago.
[00:15:21] And most importantly, there's trust. Trust that you don't have to run yourself into the ground to be taken seriously. Trust that you're allowed to succeed without sacrificing yourself in this process. That's not lowering the bar, that's raising the standard. Last episode I reviewed and discussed a little bit about rhythm, and I'm gonna talk a little bit more about rhythm over pressure.
[00:15:48] 'cause pressure is loud and rhythm is steady, and most of us were trained to listen to the loud things. Pressure says Now, pressure says, [00:16:00] more pressure says, don't stop. You're gonna fall behind. Rhythm doesn't shout. Rhythm hums. It shows up some patterns. Energy rising, energy falling focus, sharpening focus fading.
[00:16:15] And the problem isn't that we've lost rhythm. The problem is that we've been taught to overwrite rhythm. Let's think about the natural world for a moment on this. Nothing in nature operates at full intensity all the time. Trees don't grow year round. Fields don't produce endlessly without rest. Even the ocean as constant as it is, moves in tides, not straight lines.
[00:16:42] It's somewhere along the way we humans decided we could function like machines instead of ecosystems. We expect ourselves to have summer level energy and the dead of winter. We schedule our days as if sleep, digestion, emotions, grief, [00:17:00] creativity, healing our inconveniences instead of requirements, and this is crazy.
[00:17:06] And then we're confused when everything feels harder than it should. I mean, I mean, seriously, I, this is the pot calling the kettle black. I'm telling you, I'm, I'm soap in there. And here's a real life example most people might recognize. Think about driving with your foot. Pressed hard on the gas all the time.
[00:17:25] No easing up, no coasting, no breaks. You are gonna burn more fuel. The he engine's going to heat up and the ride's gonna get jerky, and eventually something's gonna wear out. Now thinking about driving with awareness, accelerating only when you need to easing off. When the road curves letting momentum work with you, you're still going to get where you're going.
[00:17:49] You just arrive with a little less damage. That's rhythm. You see this in everyday life too. A nurse working back to back 12 hour shifts doesn't function the [00:18:00] same way on day four, as they did on day one. A business owner launching something new has bursts of creative energy, followed by inevitable laws. A parent knows that some days require patience and presence more than productivity.
[00:18:18] When we ignore those realities and demand constant output. Pressure takes over and pressure is blunt. It doesn't listen, it just pushes. Rhythm, on the other hand, is responsive. It adjusts based on sleep and stress and nourishment and the environment and seasons and emotional load. It recognizes that hydration offers cognition, brain function.
[00:18:47] That what you eat influences your mood and focus, and that light movement and even silence can shape your nervous system performance. This is why success is built on [00:19:00] rhythms and it lasts longer. Rhythms allow for intensity when it's available, recovery when needed, creativity, when there's space and discipline
[00:19:13] without brutality.
[00:19:17] Sacred success doesn't reject effort. It
[00:19:21] rejects the force. It asks different questions, not how much can I push today, but what does this season support, not just the season of the ear, but the season of your life? Right. My season right now in my life is so different than it was three and a half years ago before cancer hit.
[00:19:43] Some seasons are meant for building. Some are meant for maintaining. Some are meant for healing. Some are meant for integration and trying to treat every season like a sprint is how people are losing their footing. When we choose rhythm over [00:20:00] pressure, though, we stop fighting ourselves. We start working with our biology instead of against it, and surprisingly, that's when momentum becomes easier, not harder.
[00:20:11] Because energy that's respected
[00:20:14] returns. And here's another concept, it's one of the biggest lies, is that ambition and peace are opposites
[00:20:26] and they're not. One of the biggest lies people carry, especially high capacity, capable, responsible humans is that if they slow down, they're gonna lose their edge.
[00:20:36] That peace will make them complacent. That if they stop gripping and grinding so tightly, everything is going to fall apart. So they stay tense. They always are leaning forward, always bracing. But here's what I've seen both professionally and personally. Peace. Peace in the mind, peace in the heart, peace in the body doesn't dull ambition.[00:21:00]
[00:21:00] It refines it. And let me give you a real world example on this. I've worked with people who have wildly ambition, like really wildly ambitious people, physicians, leaders, entrepreneurs, CEOs, teachers, people who believe that pressure was the only thing keeping them sharp. They wore stress like an armor.
[00:21:22] And yes, they achieved, but they also lived with constant jaw tension, shallow breathing, and low grade irritability. That made everything feel heavy and something shifted. Suddenly they're not happy. No matter what success comes their way. But when something shifts, not overnight, not magically, when they shift into peace and allowance and flow, they stopped forcing every decision from urgency and started allowing moments of pause, actual pause, not [00:22:00] scrolling or numbing.
[00:22:01] And what surprised them the most wasn't that they wanted less is what they wanted was better. They improved their desires, their ambition didn't disappear. It got clearer, cleaner, less frantic. I've seen this in my own life too. There were definitely seasons when I believed that if I wasn't in constant productivity mode, constantly useful, constantly available, that I was falling behind.
[00:22:29] So I filled every gap of my time, every quiet moment, every ounce of energy. And from the outside it looked like success, but internally, there was a constant hum of pressure. Everything felt rushed.
[00:22:46] Every good thing
[00:22:47] even felt rushed and winds didn't land. Rest felt undeserved, like I had to earn rest and peace felt scary [00:23:00] and suspicious and wrong.
[00:23:03] It meant I wasn't doing something and if I wasn't doing something, then I wasn't worthy of something. And maybe that's just me, but I don't think so. I've seen it too often in so many people. And then life does what? Life does. It forced a pause, not as punishment, but as information. And in that pause I realized something very important.
[00:23:26] The ambition I was protecting so fiercely was no longer serving the life that I actually wanted to live. There is a difference between ambition, rooted in purpose and ambition rooted in proving. Proving ambition is loud, it's reactive. It's always looking over its shoulder. Its knees are external validation to feel safe, but purpose-driven ambition, it's quieter, it's steady, it's [00:24:00] less interested in being impressive and more interested in being aligned.
[00:24:05] I've watched my daughter do this naturally, probably because she saw me doing the opposite. So think about how you move when you're calm versus when you're rushed. When you're calm, your decisions are clear. Your words land better, you waste less energy. Second guessing yourself. You're still caring, but you're not desperate, and that's not losing ambition, that's maturing it.
[00:24:34] Ambition and peace can coexist when peace creates space. And in that space you can actually hear what you want rather than chasing what you think you're supposed to want. And sacred success allows ambition to breathe. It says you're allowed to want more. You're allowed to build, you're allowed to stretch, and you don't have to [00:25:00] be miserable doing it.
[00:25:02] And I'm gonna say this again. Sacred success says you're allowed to want more. You're allowed to build, you're allowed to stretch, and you don't have to be miserable doing it because ambition fueled by clarity will always outperformed ambition fueled by fear. I'd like to review a little bit about what the real cost of self-sacrifice in the name of goals and success really, really means.
[00:25:38] Self-sacrifice is often praised as a virtue, especially in caregiving professions, especially in families, especially for people who are taught early. That being needed was the same thing of being worthy. Biologically and practically chronic self-sacrifice has a huge cost and it doesn't always show up at once.[00:26:00]
[00:26:00] It shows up slowly, tenaciously, and quietly. It shows up as chronic tension in the neck and shoulders that never quite releases and eventually leads to headaches. Maybe a sleep that looks long on paper but never feels restorative. You're still tired. Maybe as digestion that's suddenly off. Bloating, reflux, loss of appetite, or constantly grazing, eating throughout the day.
[00:26:29] It might show up as an immune system that starts catching everything that goes around, every virus, every illness. These aren't random. These are signals from your body. And then when the body is in a prolonged state of quote, holding it all together, stress hormones stay elevated. Don't get me wrong, cortisol isn't bad.
[00:26:53] It's extremely helpful in short bursts, but chronically elevated. Cortisol is going to [00:27:00] disrupt blood sugar regulation. It's gonna suppress immune function. It's going to impair memory and is going to increase inflammation. And this is why people who constantly put themselves last are often saying things like, I don't know why I'm tired all the time.
[00:27:15] I hear this one a lot. Well, my labs are normal, but I don't feel right. I used to be resilient and now everything knocks me over. Folks. That's not aging. That's accumulated stress, and I see this all the time. People skipping meals, people not drinking their water, people powering through headaches and back pain.
[00:27:36] They're ignoring their own body's signals that are early warning systems because someone else needs them. Score. So they've been taught,
[00:27:46] but here's the thing, the body's going to keep score. Blood pressure's going
[00:27:52] to creep up. Blood sugar's gonna become harder to control. Anxiety is gonna show up as palpitations or [00:28:00] tightness in the chest and neck and head, and depression is gonna hide behind the exhaust.
[00:28:06] And then one day there's a diagnosis or a scare or a moment when the system just says, I'm done compensating. I'm done. Here's the thing, self-sacrifice doesn't make you stronger. It makes you delayed, delayed in rest, delayed in repair, delayed in joy, and there's another cost that's just as important.
[00:28:29] Chronic self-sacrifice, erodes trust with yourself. Every time you ignore hunger, you ignore fatigue, or you're in ignoring your emotional overwhelm, your body learns that it won't be listened to Over time, the signals get louder or they go numb, and either way, connection is lost. Sacred success doesn't require self neglect.
[00:28:55] It requires that your health is not a side project, it's the [00:29:00] foundation. You don't build a meaningful life on a system that's constantly under strain and then call it sustainable. And here's the reframe I want to offer gently. Rest is not something that you earn after sacrificing yourself. And care is not selfish, it's strategic.
[00:29:20] And listening to your body is not weakness. It's wisdom. When we stop treating ourselves as an afterthought. Our energy changes, our clarity changes, and our capacity changes. And from that place, success stops feeling like something you just survive. So let's create a new definition of success, one that you can actually feel.
[00:29:49] Let's pause for a moment and shift the question instead of asking, what does success look like? Let's ask. What does success [00:30:00] feel like when it's actually working? Because if success is real, if it's sustainable, if it leaves a signature on the body, well, there you go. Sacred success doesn't feel like a constant urgency.
[00:30:15] It doesn't feel like bracing before everyday starts. It doesn't feel like relief only after collapse. It feels steadier. It feels like waking up without that immediate spike of anxiety in your chest, like being able to think clearly without three cups of coffee just to get oriented, like finishing a day with some energy still available, not because you did less, but because you didn't leak energy all day long.
[00:30:43] People often tell me, I don't want an easy life. I want a meaningful one. And sacred success agrees with that. Meaning doesn't come from avoidance. It comes from engagement that's aligned and this kind of success feels like focus, [00:31:00] that's clean and not frantic. Decisions that don't require hours of second guessing work that has edges clear start and stop points and rest that actually restores instead of just numbing.
[00:31:14] We might notice it in relationships too. We might be more present, might listen better. We don't snap as easily and we don't feel like every interaction is just one more demand on an already empty tank. And here's a subtle but important difference. Sacred success includes space. Space to enjoy what you've built, space to adapt when life shifts and space to change your mind without feeling like you failed.
[00:31:44] It doesn't require you to grip the future so tightly. It trusts that you can meet what comes next without running yourself into the ground first. This is where people often realize something quietly powerful success that sustains [00:32:00] doesn't need Constant maintenance through force. It holds when it's supported.
[00:32:05] It's supported by your health, supported by rhythms and supported by your values. And when success feels like this. Ambition stops feeling like pressure and starts to feel like direction. You still move forward, but you're not chasing yourself. You're choosing, and that's the difference. So let's let Sacred Success land for a moment.
[00:32:28] Let's integrate this. And before we move towards the closing, I want to slow down just a moment. Nothing formal. Nothing you have to do, right? Just an invitation. If it feels comfortable, let your body settle. Wherever you are right now, and maybe notice where you're supported, the chair beneath you, the floor under your feet, the surface, holding your weight without asking anything from you in return.
[00:32:56] And take one slow deep breath in. [00:33:00] Ah, not deep. Just a natural breath, and let it go. And as you breathe, imagine your energy the way you might imagine an electrical current. Not forced, not surging,
[00:33:15] just flowing, steady, regulated, and enough.
[00:33:22] And now picture a dimmer switch instead of an
[00:33:25] on off button. For so long, many of us have lived lives at full brightness all the time. Lights blazing, systems overheated, and no room for nuance. Now imagine. Gently turning that dial, not down to darkness, but to a level that actually supports you. Notice how your body responds to that image, huh?
[00:33:52] No need to analyze it.
[00:33:55] Just observe dimmer. [00:34:00] And if it helps, imagine
[00:34:01] a rhythm like waves or breath, or seasons changing
[00:34:08] expansion. Rest effort and release movement and stillness.
[00:34:26] Let yourself consider this quietly. What would ambition feel like if it didn't require urgency?
[00:34:38] What would success feel like if it didn't demand self-sacrifice? You don't have to answer. Just let the questions exist,
[00:34:53] and if your mind wanders, that's okay.
[00:34:56] Just bring your attention back to the steadiness of your breath, [00:35:00] the sense of support beneath you. And the idea that growth doesn't have to hurt to be real. And when you're ready, no rush. Bring your awareness back to this moment, the room you're in, the day you're living,
[00:35:17] and the life you're building.
[00:35:23] Sacred success doesn't arrive
[00:35:25] all at once. It unfolds one aligned choice at a time. Take a nice deep breath in becoming more aware of your surroundings and just listen to this. Let's create a success that sustains. And as I close today, I wanna bring you back to one simple image. Think about that current again, when electricity flows to the system that's designed to handle it with proper wiring.
[00:35:59] Grounded [00:36:00] circuits and enough capacity, it powers light, warmth, and movement. It supports life. It doesn't destroy the structure that it's meant to serve, but when current is forced through a system that never rests, never regulates, never shuts off, something eventually gives. And this month has been about resetting the system.
[00:36:25] We talked about looking back at 2025 and what it's actually taught you, not just what it demanded. We talked about base camp, what needs to stay and what no longer gets to come with you. We talked about vision that isn't fueled by pressure, but by clarity, and we talked about energy not as something to extract from yourself.
[00:36:49] But something to steward. And today we talked about success, not the loud, performative kind, but the kind that holds sacred. [00:37:00] Success doesn't require you to dim your ambition. It asks you to stop wiring your life for overload, and it asks you to build a rhythm that can carry the current of your goals without burning you out.
[00:37:13] Success that sustains looks like this in real life. It's leaving some lights off on purpose. It's knowing when to push and when to pause without guilt, and it's building a life where growth doesn't cost you your health, your peace, or your relationships, and maybe, maybe the most important thing, it's trusting that you don't have to suffer to be worthy of what you want.
[00:37:41] And as you move into 2026, I don't want you asking, how much can I handle? I want you asking what actually supports me. Because ambition without exhaustion is not smaller. It's smarter, it's cleaner, and it's [00:38:00] sustainable, and you're allowed to build that kind of success. Thank you so much for spending this time with me.
[00:38:07] Thank you for your honesty this month, your willingness to pause, your courage to redefine what matters, and may you be happy, be healthy, and be fulfilled. Let's welcome in 2026 with joy, peace and Flow.
[00:38:30] Outro: Thank you for listening to Mindset Medicine with your host, Dr. Julia Bowlin. To learn more about mindset medicine, go to www.juliabowlinmd.com and connect with Dr. Julia to find out how our team can help you today. Join us again next week for more expert tips, tools, and strategies to become healthier, wealthier, and wiser in your personal and professional [00:39:00] life.
